anime_miz
Nov 17 2005, 04:09 PM
Well.. this is a truly peverted question.. I've noticed something in hentai, where the girl is either forced or agreeing to have sex, what would you feel attracted, ie. aroused by?
This might be a one thought answer, but sometimes I think people actually like it when there's forced sex, otherwise why is there so many blackmailed or forced sex hentai?
Personal opinion aside.. .I would have to say consensual... there got to be consent, or it's rape...
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Opps.. seems like I placed only a few explaination for the Consensual options... people might not have seen Spotlight.. well something like The Elven Bride, Buttobi CPU or My Fair Massues?
Algolagnia-Volcae
Nov 17 2005, 04:38 PM
Forced with an underlying sense of consensuality due to enjoyment of the charade by both persons.
EvilPants
Nov 17 2005, 04:50 PM
I'd say a forced element along the lines of a master slave relationship, consensual is cute and all but there is the major taboo of somthing that makes it all the more interesting.
anime_miz
Nov 18 2005, 01:22 AM
Now that seems interesting.... it just gets very tiring if you see it forced all the time... and the screams... grates on the ears.. especially if it's dubbed or you have an earphone on.
Tiamat_Xero
Nov 18 2005, 03:33 AM
Since I'm usually attracted to romance in hentai, consensual works best for me. I just don't like the idea of someone forcing themselves on to someone else. And besides all that, if it's a sweet, steamy, sexy hentai moment where both parties are really in to it it's just incredibly HOT! That's the kind of screaming I like! :biggrin:
Bishoujo Ichi
Nov 19 2005, 04:59 AM
My tastes are chaning. More and more I'm beginning to like my hentai the way I would never like my real sexual life...wierd, raw, fetish-ridden and forbidden. But I do very much so enjoy hentai with consensual sex as well and adore non-hentai anime with romance and sexual tensions. But with hentai - "ooh baby I like it raw!"
ssjmkm
Nov 21 2005, 02:32 AM
I agree with Algolagnia 100%. Its all good really. But the screaming or crying im not into. But if it turns into consenual which it usually does its ok. Or if the chick is a total b*tch then i will enjoy it. I'll be like yeah, you like that.
Kamisama
Nov 21 2005, 10:10 AM
I'm go with consensual. I like it when both side's happy and satisfied.
BlueFlame
Nov 22 2005, 03:04 PM
One irony is hentai is the nastiness of erotic play becomes consensual after a forceful incident happened before.
E.g. one episode of Hyakki where after they've witnessed a bondage sex, the girl became horny and asked the guy to tie her up and have sex because of the feeling she remembered the time she was forced raped before.
Another is the one episode of Night Shift Nurses where Hikaru consensually gave up into the doctor after a series of nasty erotic play.
So it's okay to be forceful in hentai, at least I really want a consensual one IRL.
ddtothed
Nov 24 2005, 01:33 AM
no real preferense here but nothing bloody or bone chilling sick
EcchiMonkey
Dec 14 2005, 01:34 AM
I just couldn't do it, I can't just have sex with someone, especially someone who isn't willing, oh no way! I have essentially promised myself this.. I want to love my partner and be loved in return, otherwise I will refrain from having sex.. To me it's something really intimate so I wouldn't want to give it to some girl I don't love. After getting over my first short-term relationship I realise the emotional consequences of having sex, so I am sure of myself on this one: no love, no sex. :smash:
~*Black_Roses_Red*~
Dec 15 2005, 09:42 AM
In real life, I am highly against non-cons sex. I have 2 friends that've been raped some point in their life, and it's just not cool :( However, I quite like when girls are forced in hentai. Very sexy. As long as there's no blood, tears, or screaming, I prefer it.
Serenius
Dec 19 2005, 04:16 PM
In real life it goes without saying: rape is just wrong. However, in a hentai, I do like the aspect of seeing more aggressive forms of sexual intercourse. As long as there aren't things like blood and such, I find that it is more enticing. Not as if there's anything "wrong" with consensual in anime - it's just there's something about the slightly forced hentai that makes it more sexually appealing. It's the fantastical aspect that I enjoy.
Dysfunctional
Dec 29 2005, 09:31 AM
I agree with all posts who are advocates of forced-sex in hentai. It should go without saying that this is, above all else, fantasy. I mean, it's a cartoon, ferchrissakes. No one is being harmed because no one is real.
That being said, I also find rape porn sites appealing because it is all acted and made very clear on the website that it is simulation and fantasy, and all participants are willing members.
There have been studies on violent sexual fantasies and likelihood of the people who have these fantasies to act them out in the real world. It is less than 1% of people who fantasize about forced-sex would actually do it. Obviously true rape is 100% morally unethical, highly illegal, and just plain dangerous. I think the majority of people who enjoy this fetish are aware of that.
BTW, I draw the line when it gets just plain violent. Holding a girl down and forcing her to do your will is one thing, but watching a girl get puched, stabbed, shot, or in any other way bloodied or mutilated during the simulation is completely beyond anything I find erotic. Forced-sex is a fantasy of power, not violence. I think most people who don't understand forced-sex or rape fantasy don't understand that one crucial detail.
specter7896
Dec 29 2005, 09:33 AM
Well, Its kind of weird, the whole tentacle/monster thing i find okay, because its so freaking unbelievible. But I kind of hate it when its just plain rape and kind of find myself wishing somebody would come in guns ablazing and save the girl.
Lynden
Jan 3 2006, 08:52 PM
The only time I like seeing non-consensual is in yuri situations, I dont like seeing men raping women or 'monsters' for that matter.
Though I also do not like seeing 'goro/snuff' full stop in my hentai, even though its only animated and just 'fantasy' it is still something that I dont like to watch.
skysenshi
Jan 3 2006, 09:53 PM
Consensual, but you can prolly play around and pretend you're forcing the man. :rofl:
liden
Jan 5 2006, 12:46 PM
i am the loser who chose other. didn't see that happeneing now. but i honestly like them all.
fritz
Jan 25 2006, 04:45 PM
I like forced sex in my hentai the more blood,screaming,and violence the better :devil:
Drake Eclipse
Apr 13 2006, 09:37 AM
wow, as i polled in, it seems consensual and forced are tied, but forced is better as long as they dont begin to like it half way though, then it loses its purpose in being "forced" and becomes "consensual"
KraZeD KaoZ
Apr 13 2006, 11:38 AM
Rape that becomes Consesual. Can't stand forced when they cry.
soulrls
Apr 13 2006, 10:56 PM
I definitely prefer consensual, rape just isn't sexy.
but I probably just think that way b/c I'm into more softcore stuff like elven bride.
alwyzme
Apr 14 2006, 03:32 AM
Being of the female gender I prefer the consensual nature of any relationship
Nekochii
Apr 25 2006, 11:39 AM
I'm also of the female gender and though most girls I've ran into prefer consesual sex, I find it rather boring in a hentai. Unlike my male friends I don't get very aroused by hentai and watch it simply for the shock value and it adds a little more to the story, so for me the more blood monster-rape, tentacles ect, the better. I don't like it when they involve under-aged girls though. Thats just wrong.
LadyyLuna
Apr 27 2006, 02:24 AM
I like consensual better, but I can deal with rape, as long as it's not rape towards kids, that one just bothers me, and tentacle, haven't watched it yet so can't state an opinion. ;)
starman
Aug 20 2006, 11:58 AM
QUOTE (KraZeD KaoZ @ Apr 13 2006, 11:38 AM)

Rape that becomes Consesual. Can't stand forced when they cry.
Same here
xskballerx
Aug 21 2006, 07:16 AM
sometimes rape seems okay but actually it doesnt.. Sometimes it turns me on but most of the time it doesnt.. Consensual is the best in my opinion. I actually kind of enjoy slight forced but ones where the so called "victim" doesnt really have anything agaisnt it really and enjoys it.. So it actually isnt really rape but o.k..
michael D
Aug 21 2006, 11:33 AM
I definately prefer consensual; I like seeing all involved parties willing and enjoying themselves during sex.
VanGosroth
Aug 30 2006, 04:01 PM
Concensual. I can tolerate SOME rape if it's not some bloody long f*ck fest that the girl is beaten within an inch of her life. Just the guy forcing himself into the woman is my limit. I'll still hate it a LOT but I'll live. Anything more then that will COMPLETELY put the series on my black list.
Solaris
Oct 5 2006, 07:57 PM
Definitely consensual. Forced sex sucks. Never experienced it, been told about it.
yukikanou
Dec 6 2006, 12:57 AM
QUOTE
E.g. one episode of Hyakki where after they've witnessed a bondage sex,
the girl became horny and asked the guy to tie her up and have sex
because of the feeling she remembered the time she was forced raped
before.
In real life, this can help a partner who has a trauma. =)
QUOTE
In real life it goes without saying: rape is just wrong.
I AGREE.QUOTE
I agree with all posts who are advocates of forced-sex in hentai.
It should go without saying that this is, above all else, fantasy.
Exactly.
I'm
ALSO of the female gender and I like
both forced and consenual in
eronaanime (Hentai). Now the anime called
Blackmail (
Tomorrow Never Ends) was one I could not take.
I like how the anime
gibo (
Stepmother's Sin) shows us what a forced rape can do. I also like how
Lesson of Darkness shows us that tentacles can be pleasureful for a
woman.
An anime of this type can also teach vocabulary, believe it or not. If you get grabbed in Japan and the attacker would not let go, then you might yell
tasukete (Help!) or
hanashite (Let me go!). In another case, your lover may want you to roleplay as a Japanese school girl or a shy Japanese man (I am thinking of the anime
Fujimi Orchestra) and knowing some words that you learn from an
eronaanime may add to the fantasy.
Those are my two cents.
DragonBallMe
Aug 20 2007, 11:37 AM
QUOTE
I agree with all posts who are advocates of forced-sex in hentai. It should go without saying that this is, above all else, fantasy. I mean, it's a cartoon, ferchrissakes. No one is being harmed because no one is real.
That being said, I also find rape porn sites appealing because it is all acted and made very clear on the website that it is simulation and fantasy, and all participants are willing members.
There have been studies on violent sexual fantasies and likelihood of the people who have these fantasies to act them out in the real world. It is less than 1% of people who fantasize about forced-sex would actually do it. Obviously true rape is 100% morally unethical, highly illegal, and just plain dangerous. I think the majority of people who enjoy this fetish are aware of that.
BTW, I draw the line when it gets just plain violent. Holding a girl down and forcing her to do your will is one thing, but watching a girl get puched, stabbed, shot, or in any other way bloodied or mutilated during the simulation is completely beyond anything I find erotic. Forced-sex is a fantasy of power, not violence. I think most people who don't understand forced-sex or rape fantasy don't understand that one crucial detail.
I understand completely, and it can not be made any more clearer than that!
In response to the poll, I actually like a mix of both in Hentai. Not both in the same film generally, but just both in general, it's fun both ways.
Larghaz
Aug 21 2007, 12:11 PM
QUOTE (DragonBallMe @ Aug 19 2007, 11:37 PM)

In response to the poll, I actually like a mix of both in Hentai. Not both in the same film generally, but just both in general, it's fun both ways.
Hentai - Abnormality, Metamorphosis, Pervert.
NOT pornographic Anime, Manga, Games or Pictures.I don't think Abnormalities are consensual or forced on anyone. People that have abnormalities are usually born with them which means that they of course did not give their consent to be brought into the world with their condition. You can't say it was forced on them either since they weren't even able to give any decision on the matter.
Metamorphoses are hardly ever forced. Can't say that caterpillars are forced to metamorphose into butterflies. Don't know of any situations where metamorphosis is foced either.
Perverts, well you can probably force someone to become a pervert. But usually, the case is that people are consensually perverts.
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Ero-Anime, Ero-Manga, Ero-Games and Ero-Gazou, Fanfiction or just H, or Ecchi as the Japanese would say.
Balance is good. While some people get off at seeing someone being abused, brutalized or taken advantage of; others want to see gentle caressing, romantic kissing and good ol' love making. There is a reason that H features both these, and that is to cater to what the viewers want. Whether it reflects the kind of thing that the person watching it would do in real life can't always be proven with what they watch. It's like saying that someone who likes seeing naked lolitas in the H-Medias is automatically a real life pedophile; or that someone is really into beastiality just because they enjoy Ero-Manga, Ero-Games, Ero-Gazou and Ero-Anime that depict beastiality.
I for one enjoy love making, but sometimes that gets boring, which is why I watch shows like
Unbalance,
Gibomai,
Inma Seiden and the like. If those get tiring, I move up to titles like
Yakin Byouto,
Shusaku Replay,
Waver and others like these. But, I of course keep in mind that it isn't right to force one's self on someone else for pleasure. It's like watching Professional Wrestling, which of course is fake, but entertaining. People enjoy it as a form of entertainment, and know better than to replicate what they see.
DragonBallMe
Aug 23 2007, 09:17 AM
QUOTE
It's like watching Professional Wrestling, which of course is fake, but entertaining. People enjoy it as a form of entertainment, and know better than to replicate what they see.
Unfortunately, a few have. Some have had tragic results. I'm sure you heard about them in the papers.
QUOTE
Balance is good.
Yes but, I personally believe love making doesn’t have to get boring. The trick is to find new and exciting ways to please your partner. There are plenty, trust me. For the most part Ero-Anime lovers don't seem to have that problem. *hehe*
QUOTE
Perverts, well you can probably force someone to become a pervert. But usually, the case is that people are consensually perverts.
See
G-Spot Express.
Larghaz
Aug 23 2007, 12:23 PM
QUOTE (DragonBallMe @ Aug 22 2007, 09:17 PM)

Unfortunately, a few have. Some have had tragic results. I'm sure you heard about them in the papers.
People who disregard the warnings are what we call stupid. Course, there are those who replicate Pro Wrestlers because they want to get into the business, they're a different bunch.
QUOTE (DragonBallMe @ Aug 22 2007, 09:17 PM)

See G-Spot Express.
Another of the worst cases in title "Pornification". :dry:
Surely you saw that except for the blue haired policewoman everyone who got felt up wasn't being forced into it. They enjoyed it, and that's like giving their consent.
If you're talking about the guy, he wasn't forced into becoming a pervert at all. He just saw that his mother or stepmother was being a slut/whore as a kid, and so he went down to thinking that all women are like that.
The Oldmanophile
Aug 28 2007, 12:08 PM
I guess it depends on my mood really. But on the whole, I like a romantic, consensual Ero-Anime. But I havent found many of those.
Atleast, none that tickle my weird fancy. lols ;p
Larghaz
Aug 29 2007, 09:56 AM
QUOTE (The Oldmanophile @ Aug 28 2007, 12:08 AM)

I guess it depends on my mood really. But on the whole, I like a romantic, consensual Ero-Anime. But I havent found many of those.
Atleast, none that tickle my weird fancy. lols ;p
Yeah, it's pretty rare in the world of H for consensual scenes with old men. I remember Kao no Nai Tsuki has a scene or two with an old man, didn't look forced either. It also had the same old man slapping the main female protagonist's ass, and what an ass. :drool:
UncolaMan
Feb 18 2008, 02:07 PM
QUOTE (BlueFlame @ Nov 21 2005, 11:04 PM)

One irony is hentai is the nastiness of erotic play becomes consensual after a forceful incident happened before.
...
So it's okay to be forceful in hentai, at least I really want a consensual one IRL.
I totally agree.
I like domination in my hentai/porn, but I also like people to be happy afterwards because, gosh darn it, I just like happy endings. Bottoms who eventually joyously accept their new lives are great, so are revenge films that don't go overboard. There used to be a much better selection of this than there is now (Secret Plot, Sexhibition, a few others). When I go comic browsing, things seem to have degenerated into rape with no recovery or happiness.
And the difference between fantasy and reality for me is wider than I'd thought at first. I had an opportunity to spank a woman (consensually), and didn't get much out of it, but it's
still a fantasy of mine. I have two sets of fantasies: what I fantasize about doing, and what I fantasize about
actually doing.
And blood is a total turn-off for me.
yoshimigi
Mar 13 2008, 04:44 PM
Hi everyone. This is my first post to OB (and upon going back over it, it's quite long... sry if it bores you)
I have been following several of the threads here for some time, but I realized that I had some thoughts of my own to contribute, and some questions to ask.
Every girl that I have been with has liked at least a bit of "rough trade," and the four of them that weren't that into it, at least enjoyed it from time to time.
There is something to be said for that powerful feeling of control (on my part) or the freedom of losing control (more often of their part). The only factor that limits how far I go with this, is that there is another person involved, and I want the experience to be pleasurable for both of us. And then there was Amber, who wanted me to go further than I was comfortable with (i.e. choking and beating her), and I had to stop seeing her.
When we are talking about porn, we are watching two (or however many) other people have sex. We don't have to worry that we are going to offend, harm or degrade them because, they have already done it to themselves, they were compensated, they are consenting adults, and they are used to doing it often.
For this reason, I can enjoy porn where people engage in acts which I would consider taboo or which would make me feel ashamed had I engaged in those same acts.
Things like extreme anal sex, choking, and even just some of the language they use, would make me pause, loose my erection, and stop. But in a movie they can be extremely exciting.
Now with hentai (call it ecchi-anime if it makes you feel good, but since I'm in the U.S....) you are that last step removed from the subject of the movie. If you saw a movie where you thought that the woman in it was ACTUALLY being raped; or if you saw a movie wherein a real adult was having sex with a child, you would immediately call the police (and try to think up a DAMN good reason to have come across this material) or, at least, I would, and I would like to think that you would. But if it is a fake adult having sex with a young looking piece of paper, and the paper doesn't seem to be having fun?
I have sex when I want a fun experience or a feeling of closeness with another person.
I watch porn when I want some mild sexual stimulus.
And I watch ecchi when I want something more shocking. More stimulating.
I like H-titles like "Yellow Star" and "Stepmother's Sin" and "Oni Tensei," and I don't think that that makes me "BAD" or even perverted.
I have no conscience overlooking what I think or feel. Only how I act.
That being said.
Does anyone have any recommendations for good loli/rape themed animes. I like stuff that really develops the fear and degradation of the whole thing, but I'm not really into all the scat and dickgirls and bestiality etc.
Thanks everyone,
Yoshi
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