Kuni
Aug 18 2005, 01:39 PM
So here I am thinking, if people like to think they are full of love and respect for others, how come they do so many inconsiderate actions? They probably mean it, but I don't think true charity is merely reactive, I think it's also about the preparation - thinking of what you should do out of consideration for others in various situations. Some people seem to forget that there is more to love and respect than following a set of rules, this is the thread where we remind them. :ok:
This is a thread where you can post inconsiderate behavior/actions that happen, and what they should be doing instead if they have any love, respect or basic decency. Since not everythings black and white, I encourage discussion. You can ask for clarifications if you find something vague, and are free to rebut when someone posts something contrary to what you think.
Hopefully we all learn from the posts, and take it to heart. That way, we'd be helping each other become better people, while learning more about each other too. :cheesy:
Kuni
Aug 18 2005, 01:49 PM
ON THE BUS sometimes people sit the way they want to, taking too much space by spreading their legs wide apart, keeping their elbows to their side, letting their belongings sit or not moving over enough to let you sit comfortably.
I believe people should compromise when it comes to public comfort. You should make enough room to let someone sit properly BUT for your comfort, you should sit in a way where you won't suffer UNLESS the person beside you still is suffering horribly.
That's it for now. :tongue: Much more to come! heck, just on the topic of the bus I have at least 2 more. :sweatface:
skysenshi
Aug 18 2005, 10:27 PM
1.) That people realize that time is money and that being late is blatant disrespect for other people's time.
2.) Smokers should lock themselves in a room and smoke all they want. They can exchange their second-hand smokes in peace. And not to be bitchy and all, but I almost wish it was legal to shoot inconsiderate smokers in my country. Then I wouldn't feel guilty about thinking of shooting that woman who triggered my allergies yesterday. Everything from my throat upwards is still throbbing (or sore) and I dun think 1 bottle of benadryl will do the trick. (Boy, I should be so lucky I didn't have asthma like some of the senshi do.)
-CC
Aug 18 2005, 10:44 PM
I dunno if it's just me, but I think people should appreciate the good things being done to them. A simple smile or a "thank you" wouldn't hurt...
It's not like one's expecting some sort of reward, it just makes one feel appreciated... And it's nice to hear too. ^_^
MarkPoa
Aug 18 2005, 11:56 PM
I make it a point to do the following whenever I can:
- Giving up my seat on the bus for the elderly, pregnant women and kids.
- Holding the elevator open a few more seconds for the guy or gal rushing to work.
- Opening the door for someone who has his/her arms full.
- Saying a simple and sincere "thank you" to the security guard inspecting your bag or the waiter who brought you your food.
- Giving the salesman or salesgirl a smile and a respectful "no thank you" when you're passing them by.
Psuedo Blair
Aug 19 2005, 12:06 AM
At times, if people are really desperate for something while waiting on line (for example: going to a public bathroom) I do let them go ahead of me.
Or me holding most of the bags when walking with someone. If the person is coughing a lot, or their hands hurt, I would kindly do it for them. Of course, it's no question if it's my own things.
An old lady is crossing the street and she seems like she would need some assistance, I would help. But, I think it's not forgivable if there's a hit and run involved and the person (s) are in need of help. Or, if the bus just happens to quickly go while you're a few feet away from (the driver knowing you're there, but is too impatient.) There's a lot of things involving transportation, huh?
Status
Aug 19 2005, 12:10 AM
I can't stand it when people don't get in to the far lane when I'm merging on to the interstate.
I make it a habit to carry a few assorted coins in my pocket so that I can cover the difference when people come up a little short at the video store where I work. It's getting to where people take advantage of it though, so I'm gonna have to stop. :sweatface:
Kuni
Aug 19 2005, 01:10 AM
ON THE BUS, people like to crowd in front.
When it's ALMOST at full seating capacity, some people just stand in front. This is inconsiderate why? People who want to enter the bus will have to pass through them, that is, if they decide to hop in at all because they're making it seem like there's no seats available left. That's especially bad for the driver and conductor because they're being robbed of money, not just convenience.
When it's AT full seating capacity (standing room only) people still crowd at front, congesting the passage for everyone in the bus, instead of spreading out, and being less of a hassle. This also gives the illusion that the bus is bursting with passengers, when in reality there's a lot of standing room at the back of the bus. Again, bad for everyone involved, especially the driver and conductor.
One more post for the bus later, but for now, tata!
firesenshi
Aug 19 2005, 11:44 AM
to think of LONG-TERM things that benefit everybody (if you're wise, you'll know it always come back to you anyway x7)
so invest by:
1) praying for your own country
2) pick up the trash even if it's not yours
3) never bribe the policeman (i plead to tears :bawling: till kingdom come)
4) cross at the pedestrian lane or overpass even if it's far (remember! you drive too!)
5) splurge on people's shallow happinesses once in a while (treat your parents to a massage or something)
6) stop bitching on your own country especially if you're not paying taxes via your income (VATs are not included). complaints multiply.
7) don't steal even if it doesn't seem to hurt. (pirated VCDs do count.) you will also grow up, either be employed or have a business of your own, and then you will understand that even a 10% loss every month hurts.
ssjmkm
Aug 19 2005, 10:33 PM
Great topic by the way. :ok:
I see lots of people holding doors for someone. My dad told me to make sure I hold doors for people because its a nice thing to do. There are so many times that i hold a door for someone and they don't even nod at me. I feel like grabbing them and chucking them back outside.
Instead of lying about seeing someone just tell the person the truth. I just contacted one of my old GF's and we had a decent e-mail conversation and all of a sudden she freaked out and told me to never contact me. If she didn't want me to contact her why didn't she say that right away, or not as harsh. She came across psycho, maybe she really is i don't know.
If you know someone is the opposite political party than you, don't go saying all these things that will P!ss them off. Pretty much everyone at my job hates President Bush. So I don't go making trouble by saying my beliefs all the time. So far I've had NO problems at work.
At school i used to lend out pencils all the time. Most of the time i don't get them back. Sure that's irratating because sometimes i don't have pencils for my self. If you borrow something GIVE IT BACK!
rinoa
Aug 20 2005, 08:15 PM
more or less this is inate in me:
> giving a smile to a salesperson who would greet me whenever i'm in the mall.
> try to be on time whenever i have an appointment or something.
> having an ex bf who borrowed money from me and never paid me back. i hate and as much as possible i don't borrow money and if i do, i make it a point to pay them ASAP.
> if i'm in a resto and their service is good, i give them a tip.
> i try to be friendly as possible.
> i call people manong or manang.
skysenshi
Aug 21 2005, 11:17 PM
Yeah, that thing about salespeople is true. Sure, they don't really greet you because they're nice but more because it's part of their job. But greeting them back actually makes their job easier because being acknowledged always leaves a nice feeling. :ok:
I always give tips even if the service is not good.^^;;;
Kuni
Aug 23 2005, 06:19 AM
lol. thanks mkm!
I think it's nice to give people compliments when you appreciate something they did, like a good joke or a nice topic. :cheesy:
ON THE BUS, when it's standing room only, if you're not handicapped, maybe you should let people who have a hard time standing up sit in your stead. Small people, old people, pregnant people, people carrying a whole lot of stuff. Out of pity, I also let beautiful ladies sit because I hate it when maniacs grope them while passing. :sad: I like how some of them are cranky before I let them sit, because it disarms them and reminds them that the world is a good place. :happy:
ON THE BUS, at full seating capacity, it's mighty fine to anchor yourself on a seat, as long as you're not also anchoring yourself on someone's poor shoulder. Also, when other people are passing, position yourself in between seats (your feet diagonally behind the backrest, your body bent forward to be behind the backrest), so you're not caught between two hard places. This makes it easier for people to pass, and saves you much pain and grimacing.
yea, I spend a lot of time in the bus. :laugh:
nib
Aug 23 2005, 08:54 PM
If you're not on earphones and you play a particular playlist over and over again amidst people, well either you sew the earphones to your ears or you change your playlist.
Also, don't sing an overplayed song that everyone around you's sick of even if you like it and really feel like singing it.
Having a good voice is no excuse. Please, spare us. Respect and Basic Decency please :biggrin:
(yes I hate music at work >.< )
Kuni
Aug 24 2005, 07:08 AM
The public does not appreciate hearing other people's bodily functions. Farts and burps are well understood by many, but what about scratching and, heaven forbid, breathing? It's not cool, especially in a cramp space, like A BUS. (:laugh:) (reply please, am I right? or am I alone in this?)
ON THE BUS, do not eat messy foods like skinned peanuts that you personally skin yourself (maybe also to discard extra salt) using a rolling motion of your fingers, leaving the discarded skins on the seat.-_- Do not spill juice on the seats! Do not use the handles to open any kind of fruit! Do not eat corn-on-the-cob and leave it on the floor, and DO NOT TOUCH MY SHIRT WITH YOUR SOILED HANDS, MISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, where was I? :sweatface: It's really inconsiderate to the people sitting after you, and more work for the sanitation crew - and if they don't get to clean it, you have yourself to blame for the tiny roaches crawling in the bus. :tongue:
Kamisama
Aug 24 2005, 10:05 AM
I thing that some people should change the way they talk to other. Sure, they feel nothing with their way of speaking or tone, but other people will take it differently. What, you call someone with a loud voice without any intention to pick a fight, but when that people take it as "what? you want a piece of me?" calling, how?
Malachi
Aug 24 2005, 07:47 PM
Something that, I am ashamed to say, the rest of my family does not seem to understand:
treat everyone with the same respect, trust, and courtesy you'd like to recieve from them!
This is basic, and they should know this... unfortunately... they don't! Maybe they do have valid reasons... but... meh... I still think this should be the case :buck:
Here's a situation I find completely indecent(this happens regularly, believe me!):
an ex-bf/gf demanding of / threatening their ex-gf/bf not to go out with other people because... THEY STILL LOVE THEM! :rofl:
Ding ding ding ding! Someone has a screw loose! Jeez... I find it completely retarded when I come across/hear of people like this! What the hell is wrong with you people! Your ex-love interest is no longer interested in you! Get a life! Just because a long-standing relationship you've been in is over, doesn't mean there won't be any others that'll come along! Accept it! People fall OUT of love... it's a fact of life!
ARGH! Even talking about this crap irritates the hell out of me!
skysenshi
Aug 24 2005, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (Malachi @ Aug 24 2005, 07:47 PM)
Something that, I am ashamed to say, the rest of my family does not seem to understand:
treat everyone with the same respect, trust, and courtesy you'd like to recieve from them!
This is what I noticed about me and my brother --> despite learning how to deal with our tempers and lengthening our patience, we still seem to snap easier at our family members. Like if I practice 100% patience on just anyone, I only use 50% on my family. ^^ I guess it's because of our openness and familiarity with the people closest to us that we can easily lose grip of things.
Kuni
Aug 25 2005, 12:58 AM
yeah sky, more than the familiarity, I think, history is the killer. issues, issues, issues. :p
I still have a few more concerning the bus, for next time. hehehe
Loosecannon
Aug 25 2005, 02:14 PM
Ok, here's one...
Filipino motorists have long way to go when it comes to respecting pedestrians and pedestrian lanes...I mean c'mon, there's a pedestrian lane in front of you, and yet there you go moving your vehicle forward, effectively blocking the lane itself, then you complain when pedestrians go chaotic around your car...
Sheesh, here's another example...A pedestrian tries to cross the street, the motorist sees the pedestrian attempting to cross, instead of slowing down, they speed up and stop short an inch or two from the pedestrian...I mean WTF!?! Its common sense to slow down and let the hapless pedestrian cross!!!
Btw, I am both a motorist and a pedestrian, I understand when people just seem to jump in front of one's vehicle...But being a motorist, it is our duty to drive carefully and responsibly...We're inside a car dammit, its not like we're going to bump onto Superman on the street and wreck our car!!! Placing value on a person's life has truly deteriorated in this country, and we call ourselves Christians!?!
Malachi
Aug 25 2005, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (skysenshi @ Aug 24 2005, 09:46 PM)
This is what I noticed about me and my brother --> despite learning how to deal with our tempers and lengthening our patience, we still seem to snap easier at our family members. Like if I practice 100% patience on just anyone, I only use 50% on my family. ^^ I guess it's because of our openness and familiarity with the people closest to us that we can easily lose grip of things.
Heh... so true... it's exactly the same with me and my brothers. I guess its safe to say that if people outside the family ever saw how we treated each other, they'd probably call us uneducated idiots... :buck:
I think Kuni nailed it on the head... it's the huge amount of common history you have with them... issues indeed. :rofl:
@LC
same here, both a motorist and a pedestrian... I hate it when people are rushing down the street in their cars and completely disregard the peddy lanes... I should know... I've almost been run down THRICE while crossing the peddy lanes outside my university... :angryfire:
Kuni
Aug 27 2005, 11:30 PM
ON THE BUS, some people passing the aisle hit others with their bags. At least it's happening less and less, people are getting more and more aware, but the bad side is, when I'm walking down the aisle, the seated people look at me like I'm about to hit them with my bag even if I have it under control. :sweatface:
Always be aware of yourself and your possessions. It's not only considerate, but also the smart thing to do. You don't wanna be pickpocketed, after all.
I'm sure I have more on the bus, but I think I'll move on to driving for next post. :laugh:
-CC
Aug 28 2005, 02:15 AM
QUOTE (Kuni @ Aug 24 2005, 07:08 AM)
The public does not appreciate hearing other people's bodily functions. Farts and burps are well understood by many, but what about scratching and, heaven forbid, breathing? It's not cool, especially in a cramp space, like A BUS. (:laugh:) (reply please, am I right? or am I alone in this?)
Much more "smelling" other people's body functions... I remember some inconsiderate person farting inside the FX. :winxp:
On FXs'...I hate it when people hog the air conditioning to themselves... Or people who will insist that they be dropped off to their exact destination, I mean there was one time when we were on our way home when we were stalled by traffic jam. We can avoid further delay by taking a detour, but there's this woman who wanted to unload at a location a few blocks away. Her selfishness cost us around 30 minutes.
On discipline, Many people will opt to cross the street than to use the overpass/underpass. I just hope they don't go on complaining when they get run over by vehicles, lest they survive.
senseichi
Aug 28 2005, 04:39 AM
about commuting, i hate it when people smoke inside the jeep. my nose is very sensitive when it comes to second-hand smoke. i mean, the jeep is already polluting the streets, do they really need to contribute?
i agree with -CC when people in the FX just try to concentrate the aircon to themselves... jeesh! i once fought with some biatch in the FX when she told me that I was getting the aircon all for myself when i was ACTUALLY sharing it to everyone inside... she's well... uhmm fat that's why maybe she feels the aircon of the FX was not sufficient for her...
i also don't like it when (some) private cars / PUVs just go straight even if the stoplight is still red. i also don't like it when pedestrians cross the streets even if its still green! sheesh! a simple discipline wouldn't hurt...
ok, im ok now... hehe!
yep, im back... actually im trying to revive myself... :sweatface:
Samocelou
Sep 3 2005, 07:04 AM
Ah, what a perfect place to tell you about my [sarcasm]perfect[/sarcasm] country.
Well, at least all of you people have it better than I do over here. People here are always very, very late, that it almost seems like you're the one who's too early. There is also a "popular" tale of that when you're going to have a date, let your boy/girlfriend wait for half an hour and see if he/she leaves. If he/she doesn't, he/she really loves you! *whacks insolent fools with a gigantic cookie* So people, please be on time, if nothing else.
And then there's the general bad faith assuming by the general populace. I once accidentally bumped into someone, and just before I was able to apologize... She snaps and says (translated to carry the tone and voice) "Yowhydidya bumpin intae me?! You wanna die or sumthin?!" And proceeds to swear like a pirate having a bad day. I lost all incentive at that point, and just kept on walking like nothing happened. If wikipedia taught me anything, it's assume good faith. Or else your life will be a living Erebus.
Last but not least, please please please remember to return things you borrow! Seriously, back in those elementary school days I probably lost more pencils than my fingers and toes combined just borrowing them to people. This made me develop a sort of a complex or something, and I now force people to sign a ten page agreement before lending anything. And I end up refusing anyway. And it feels awful. Ugh.
skysenshi
Sep 3 2005, 09:23 AM
QUOTE
People here are always very, very late, that it almost seems like you're the one who's too early.
Are you sure you ain't talking about the Philippines? The country of just about 60% of the people in these boards, including the senshi. :biggrin:
(Yah, I hate perpetual tardiness also.)
QUOTE (Samocelou @ Sep 3 2005, 07:04 AM)
So people, please be on time, if nothing else.
Ouch. :buck:
(<-Observes
Filipino Time)
QUOTE (Samocelou @ Sep 3 2005, 07:04 AM)
I once accidentally bumped into someone, and just before I was able to apologize... She snaps and says (translated to carry the tone and voice) "Yowhydidya bumpin intae me?! You wanna die or sumthin?!" And proceeds to swear like a pirate having a bad day. I lost all incentive at that point, and just kept on walking like nothing happened.
In our country, if someone bumps into you like that, chances are your wallet/mobile phone is gone. :buck:
QUOTE (Samocelou @ Sep 3 2005, 07:04 AM)
Last but not least, please please please remember to return things you borrow!
Hai... It's really not a problem to lend to other people as long as they return it, on time and intact...
xxMecha_Lordxx
Sep 7 2005, 04:40 AM
...in simple words...
ppl should mean what they say...n say what they mean...
it sounds pretty redundant...but it can save alot of ppl from gettin hurt...
ie.
dont tell someone you love them...unless you know you can love no other...
dont tell someone you will stay with them...unless you know what you're in for...
dont tell someone they mean something to you...unless you really know their value
and dont tell someone you care...unless you're actaully willing to do something to help....
Loosecannon
Sep 7 2005, 10:39 AM
Giving alms...
I recall one of my professors tell our class, that giving alms is alright and should not be frowned upon...He said, "If I will not give alms to this person, who will?"
That is why, I admire him so much because of hi generosity, he even has a charitable institution, helping those who are in need and who cannot pay him back...That is charity...
There are times that I myself would pass by a beggar and then double-back just to give something for him/her to survive the day...But I also, check whether this person really has nothing else to depend upon but to ask for alms...On other times, when a beggar asks me for alms, I acknowledge him/her in return and give him a little bit of what I have, then he/she smiles back, that small gesture gives me an uplifting sense of peace...I feel the opposite when I ignore a beggar, I get a troubled feeling like I could have given something or should have helped a little...
Yeah, just some passing thoughts...
Kuni
Sep 25 2005, 03:53 AM
I was gonna put this in my sig, but it was too long:
Kindness
If you were busy being kind,
before you knew it you would find,
you'd soon forget to think it was true
that someone was unkind to you.
If you were busy being glad
and cheering people who are sad,
although your heart might ache a bit,
you'd soon forget to notice it.
I read it somewhere, uncredited. It's so friggin' true, and I wish more people knew it, so they'd live it. I had a related experience very recently, and this really hits home. Being kind for kindness' sake has unexpected but very welcome benefits to it, apparently!
Kuni
Oct 5 2005, 10:43 PM
Like my new sig says, we have to forgive people if we really mean to extend charity to them... it's depressing how much hate is going around.