also inspired by dave matthews' "don't drink the water"
if it's a little blurry, just click on the zoom or enlarge thingy :buck:


http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/dontdrinkthewater.jpg

interesting and great work!
Your style is very much like Crest of the Stars, with the elongated faces and alien eye shape. Very cool!

Cool!

I love that rendering of the bison!

More! Post s'more dude! [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/omniexistence/Macross-PH%20Images/yay.gif[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/omniexistence/Macross-PH%20Images/yay.gif[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/omniexistence/Macross-PH%20Images/yay.gif[/img]

great...just when I was about to post some ballpen art of mine as well :buck:

ey John...show them Gandhi, or that one with just your right hand :ok:

that's done WITH A FRIGGIN' BALLPEN?!?!?!?!

You must be God!

speaking of God... Nib! Post your ballpen art please!

to kuni - don't we just love ballpens? :blush:

to nib - ghandi's gonna take a while. i think i've given it away :sweatface:

i had a reference for the bison tho, because if i hadn't, it'd just look like a cow :eek:

i'll try and post some more ballpen and pencil stuff if i can.

thanks FIFOLS! :biggrin:

Cool!

You're da best beast artist, John! :laugh::ok:

in efforts of consolidating the stuff i post on OB, i'll throw the links from the RO thread here :buck:

http://geocities.com/kaoko25/padnpad.txt

http://geocities.com/kaoko25/minorous.txt

the bull with the hammer is done with my trusty ballpen, and the ninja with burd is done with pencil :biggrin:

-what a cheeky guy! :rant:

the hand! show them the hand John! :nuts:

wtf? u gave Gandhi away!? :punch: :smash:

re: my ballpen art...'s not finished yet :sweatface: *resists the pull of the PS2* :rofl:

I just have one emoticon and one question for this.

First the emoticon :notworthy:

and the question: How many pens did you use up for that one with the Buffalo?

Wonderful!! You're great!!

*is sheepish because of the attention* thank you minna! :blush:

to larghaz:

just one pen man, and i didn't even finish half of it. you'll be surprised how much ink a ballpen has. :)

to nib: i'll start looking for the hand :sweatface:

i'll try and post some more. CHEEKY!!! :rant:
critiques, comments, violent reactions, suggestions for improvement, uhms, and ahhhhs are most welcome :biggrin:

ohh, kamisama, i mustered up some cahones and entered "your room"

SUGOI!!!! :agree: post some of those here!!!!

WOW COOL!!!

Your art style is a little bit different from the traditional anime stuff, but nevertheless, it is very good, very detailed down to every nook and cranny, yet it's not cluttered to look at.. In fact, it's very clean!

And to think it was done with a ballpen....You are without a doubt a very skilled person to produce such results.... (:notworthy:)

Let us see more! ;)

Keep up the great work!!!! :)

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
i'll edit this post as soon as i can upload some more stuff on geocities. :rant:
it won't upload! :sad:
the following would be old stuff, including colored ones. i'm particularly interested in how larghaz would react to a particular work :devil: :sweatface:

edit:
here they are :) and thanks again for bearing with me :rant:

http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/pai01.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/pai02.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/pai03.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/pai04.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/pai05.jpg

Augghhh! The Hand!!! It's the Hand!!! :nuts:

John, you should've scanned the whole page of that hand artwork. The surrounding blankness is part of the stupefyingly cool impact of that work :nuts: :cool:

and hey, that's some awesome foliage! :nuts: yer definitely my foliage artist! :clap: :rofl: :ok:

*hesitates all the more to finish his so-called ballpen artwork :buck: *

wow! oi, sensei! so still up to the good 'ol stuff! :biggrin: :agree:

Sorry this took awhile John, had to be sure I was coming up with something worthy :ok: :sweatface:

First, an appetizer :buck: :cheesy:

And...The fruit of office boredom :buck: click here for a smaller version :ok:

[edit=tags]

!!!!!!!

That's it!! I'll post a new pictures!!You people are great!!!!

:biggrin:
hey nib!!! they ARE verrrrry familiar! but i can't place them exactly, well, i'll find out later :) more more more!!!
office boredom is GOOD for you!! :agree: :laugh: :blush:
please people!!! just post post post!!!
it's so great to see all these amazing works in a thread :bounce: :ok:
and don't let the Pen and ink title discourage you from posting other stuff!!
heheheh, i'll try to post some more later :biggrin:
kamisama, nib i'll be waiting for more of your posts ne? :agree:

thanks again FIFOLS!

crap :buck: there goes my bid for originality :buck: still too generic, eh? :sweatface:

btw John, which brand do you use? I'm currently fine with Pilot, because Panda just blots out too often, so it's rather tricky to pull of gradations and "washes" (LOL...ballpen washes... :buck: )

i take it back nib, the chars are familiar, btu only because i know your style already. i think :buck:
but you told me they were original, and i believe you of course. and knowing that,
i can say they're verrrry original :agree: :biggrin:
POST SOME MORE PEOPLE!!!

Nib, that is awesome work! I liked the appetizer one, especially!


I would love to do something similar, but I get too darned lazy when it comes to them criss-cross shading and backgrounds.

Very nice! [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/omniexistence/Macross-PH%20Images/beerchug.gif[/img]

i was hesitating to post this because most of them are unfinished, but i thought that it could help in some way the people to get more insight on how i draw, if of course they want to find out. :biggrin: :sweatface: PALUSOT!!! [scapegoat] :tongue:

these are quite old. :buck:

http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/colors01.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/colors02.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/colors03.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/colors04.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/colors05.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/colors06.jpg

hahahahah, then again it could be argued that i dug up old stuff just because i haven't any new ones :biggrin:

critiquing is of course most welcome, thank you :)

*is tempted to dig up old works as well :devil: *

yo John! Let's make a one-shot collaboration comic! :nuts: Let's try to come up with at least 6 pages :rofl: Plot and Viewer Content: anything goes! :devil:

Those look good, for old drawings, especially the first one. Very comic book style. Loved the lines very much!

About the one-shot you guys are planning, go for it! [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/omniexistence/Macross-PH%20Images/beerchug.gif[/img]

I'm already on the 6th page of the 10 page manga I'm making. Will post it all as soon as I'm done. :biggrin:

:agree: nib, about the one-shot, please produce the idea for this, i know first hand that you produce VERY good stories and ideas, you go dood!!! :agree:
i'll be waiting :biggrin:

hellz yeah! :cheesy:

i hope you like this nib, cause you're my idol when it comes to drawing her. :agree: :biggrin:

http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/twopens.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/jkperia/twopensneg.JPG

Hardhat Death! Yeah! :rock: :cool:

omfg...two pens...what a great idea to try out next time... :nuts:

Finally finished me a fanart of the Endless siblings :bounce:

It's rather big btw :D

All characters portrayed in it except Destiny (top middle) are of Neil Gaiman :wave:

very nice :)
as always nib, your concepts are very good.
i'd like to see more depth though. technique depth nib, not thought depth.
your work is by no means shallow.
just use this pen and ink technique of yours as often as you can so it would develop more, because you are not yet at your peak. BUT YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY THERE. :agree:

wow. that's harsh. :sweatface:

Could it be because you guys have very different styles? John goes more for portrait-like product, but Nib uses pens more anime-like. :sweatface: I can't say because I have no idea what quality pen art is.

John does have a very good point though, in that technique can be trained because it is a skill (can be lost and immensely improved), but your concepts are innate and won't go anywhere (they'll always be amazing).

Now this is the kind of feedback I wanna get in my DeviantART page :rock:

@ kuni:

nib and i have a sort of understanding when it comes to critiquing artworks, and if you ask him, i think he's expecting, or would rather hear something like "that(harsh)" coming from me, rather than give him praise or something :biggrin:
and taking a page from your book kuni, i know nib can take it dakara... :)

oh, i'll also try to post a pen and ink artwork of my dad so we can have a point of reference.... it would crush my soul to bits tho, everytime i see it >_<

@ nib

whapoosh whapoosh!!!

Hey, pretty nice ballpen arts everyone :agree:

I don't use ballpen much coz I like my guidelines :sweatface: so pencils I use.

But you pull those ballpen arts quite nicely. :cheesy:

HAI, SENSEI JOHN! AND LOOK, I'M ON A ROLL! :D :D :D

warningcontainsnuditySTAY AWAY IF YOUR UNDERAGED ^_^ :wave:

A Dream of Ishtar :D

:shocked: NOW I know why John practically called your last work technically shallow! He should drop a building on you more often!

Much much better pen skillz (almost as blown away as I was by John) but I admit there's something off. I was initially confused if her position was lying down or standing up, but hair flying. (It's because of her breasts, and her hair) Heck. I still am. If she's standing up, she has too much hair. If she's lying down, her boobs are implants. Either case, her left boob (right to us) could've used less outline (But it's generally a good idea not to have any outlines). Her right collar bone could've used less shading, and the hair near the right side of her face shouldn't be getting light at all.

Her haircut also is weird (It's way too short at a few places), but I understand it's virtually impossible to have a realistic reference for her hair. I'm just nitpicking now, I know. :sweatface: Sorry. :laugh:

Dear nib,

Sorry for going off opic but ve been wondering:

Is that YOU in your display picture? (Avatar)

You got mad skillz! i like the mino with the "Pabuffs po..." You are insanely good. :ok:

Me!?!?!?: uh, hell no dood ^^; That's Maureen Larazzabal ^_^ Google her up and indulge yourself at wherever it leads you ^_~

Kuni: I did intend to have her lying down, but since I couldn't get her breasts right (TOO MUCH PORN/HENTAI OVER THE YEARS, AND NO REAL, "NATURAL" REFERENCE AT THE MINUTE ^^; )...I made her hair look as if it was being cradled by air, if she was in a standing position XD

As you might've also noticed, I was trying to make it look like there was more light to the right, so I had less shading on that part of her body - collarbones, hair, left breast and underarm, etc. =/

In retrospect, and on the whole, there's no argument she'd look more naturally alluring if I dug up good enough references. Most of your critiques are justified mainly because I couldn't make her less superficial enough, because I was mainly relying on how I learned to draw typically beautiful women in comics ^^; XD

And heh, well it's all welcome feedback from John ^^ He's been my art ed ever since I started to draw something other than anime, which, along with his insights, is something I'm proud to have gone through :ok:

yeah, I just thought you overdid the collarbone.

Hehehe. yeah, THE tell tale sign is there: long flowing dynamic hair. :p It is very understandable, anyway, because realistic hair doing non-realistic things is extremely hard to pull off.

sorry I still haven't posted any of my works. I'm too lazy. :buck:

wow!it's so awesome...

cramming in a few more before the year ends! :rock:

http://b.domaindlx.com/nibel/avatars/Destr...-and-2-dogs.jpg

JOHN! POST SOME OF YOUR WORK DAMMET! *whapush!* :ok:

Still looks great. :clap: Is it still made with just ballpens?

OMG!kawaii!the puppy is so cute!

Largz: Yes my friend. Blame John, it's his fault I'm stuck with ballpens for months now :nuts:

OMG! I love it! It looks so much better zoomed out (or thumbnailed in devART), because there, I can appreciate the shading soooooo much more! I would've appreciated more detail, since you're using fine strokes (that's just me), but damn. It is very freaking good as a whole. The leaves and trunk work out just fine from afar. Nice texturing. and composition! that second dog did the trick.

yup...I knew I should've reduced the size a bit more XD

:laugh: did it still just take one pen? Sure looks like it was made with more than one, more like two or one and a half at least.

just one dood :D I just retouched some lines over :laugh: